tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4265318885816623719.post2661812220603575150..comments2022-09-13T01:32:53.128-07:00Comments on future of art center: ART CENTER COLLEGE OF DESIGN APPOINTS DR. FRANK L. ELLSWORTH AS INTERIM PRESIDENTUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4265318885816623719.post-59992173524737345572008-11-20T13:39:00.000-08:002008-11-20T13:39:00.000-08:00Let them eat cake!Let them eat cake!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4265318885816623719.post-3673759179026174592008-11-20T11:07:00.000-08:002008-11-20T11:07:00.000-08:00A parallel universe at MOCA. Today from the LAT An...A parallel universe at MOCA. Today from the LAT <BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/arts/la-et-mocaletter20-2008nov20,0,5599508.storyE" REL="nofollow">An Open Letter to MOCA's Board of Trustees</A><BR/><BR/><BR/>From the article:<BR/>"To: MOCA trustees<BR/><BR/>Re: Rescue plans for MOCA's fiscal crisis<BR/><BR/>I read with interest in Wednesday's paper about the fiscal calamity plaguing the Museum of Contemporary Art, which seems to suggest that the nation's premier institution for art of the past 50 years is just about broke. I also read about the possible rescue plans you are prepared to pursue, in a desperate scramble to save your sinking ship. I've been hearing about others."Ophelia Chonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00595698342238398366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4265318885816623719.post-63025998629005346022008-11-16T14:50:00.000-08:002008-11-16T14:50:00.000-08:00Let's get a few things clear here. As the operator...Let's get a few things clear here. As the operators of this blog (and by the way, Ophelia is not the only member of FOAC), we have every right to delete comments we think are problematic. We've tried to steer this discussion in a generally constructive direction, and especially when posts get too personal, we evaluate them for their contribution to the discussion vs. their destructiveness. If we think it goes over the line (or is simply way off-topic, rude, or otherwise inappropriate), we'll remove it.<BR/><BR/>In general, we try to err on the side of open discussion. But we feel certain responsibilities to the overall community. We try to be fair, and as in this case, have deleted comments that might be perceived as pro-change which is generally our position.<BR/><BR/>Regarding specific recent deletions, we removed two posts that specifically accused someone by name of writing the post attacking Ophelia on her blog. Since the attack was against Ophelia, it certainly seems like she should be able to back off from having mud thrown back the other way. Not only did Ophelia request the deletion, but someone who posted the name also requested that it be deleted. So rather than continue the venom in that post against Ophelia, we thought, let's move on.<BR/><BR/>There haven't been any other deletions for quite some time. Keep in mind that if someone posts by name rather than anonymously, they can delete their own posts, so perhaps something else was deleted by the author.Future of Art Centerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12895060905028195434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4265318885816623719.post-88250416777304406392008-11-15T17:41:00.000-08:002008-11-15T17:41:00.000-08:0011/15/08 2:12 PMOkay. Which comments are you talki...11/15/08 2:12 PM<BR/><BR/>Okay. Which comments are you talking about then? <BR/>:O)Ophelia Chonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00595698342238398366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4265318885816623719.post-73018937250375147862008-11-15T14:15:00.000-08:002008-11-15T14:15:00.000-08:00Anyway, no worries. I wish the best for the future...Anyway, no worries. I wish the best for the future of Art Center, but no further interest in this blog.<BR/><BR/>If this blog is all about offending certain individuals and not about freedom of speech than so be it. Beware of the dangers of censorship, however.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4265318885816623719.post-55395307360312182092008-11-15T14:12:00.000-08:002008-11-15T14:12:00.000-08:00No, the post you deleted had nothing to do with an...No, the post you deleted had nothing to do with any attacks on you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4265318885816623719.post-29652882009323593132008-11-14T17:12:00.000-08:002008-11-14T17:12:00.000-08:00Yes it is a democracy. However I felt that posting...Yes it is a democracy. However I felt that posting the letter with the IP was enough on my blog. <BR/><BR/>This is an open forum and they posted the letter on an open forum, the writer can defend their words or not; however I do not want to point a finger nor am I going to assume who wrote it. This blog is not a kangaroo court. <BR/><BR/>If you take issue with this, you can email me. And I will discuss it with you. <BR/><BR/>OpheliaOphelia Chonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00595698342238398366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4265318885816623719.post-77095353216469982282008-11-14T16:34:00.000-08:002008-11-14T16:34:00.000-08:00Who is in charge of deleting posts? Is this a demo...Who is in charge of deleting posts? Is this a democracy or what?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4265318885816623719.post-5421563061076156542008-11-14T16:17:00.000-08:002008-11-14T16:17:00.000-08:00A couple posts related to the attack on Ophelia we...A couple posts related to the attack on Ophelia were in fact removed at the request of Ophelia and another poster. They felt that there was no point in getting too personal and we agreed.<BR/><BR/>We weren't defending or "losing sleep" over the architecture & planning office, just giving people an update. The reference to people advising Ellsworth was more a cautionary statement as he makes changes, for example the letting go of the CTO, which seemed hasty, especially in the resulting organization (or frankly, disorganization).<BR/><BR/>Overall, we support the slimming down of administration as a long needed move.Future of Art Centerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12895060905028195434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4265318885816623719.post-3085328883809037252008-11-14T15:13:00.000-08:002008-11-14T15:13:00.000-08:00Did some recent posts get deleted? Or am I seeing ...Did some recent posts get deleted? Or am I seeing things?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4265318885816623719.post-43672084409447698172008-11-14T13:19:00.000-08:002008-11-14T13:19:00.000-08:00"I don't think we'll be seeing the kinds of extern..."I don't think we'll be seeing the kinds of external design fees like that company got happening again."<BR/><BR/>Why not? Other than a (strictly interim) president with an active red-pen, what strategic shift in long-term financial philosophy has anyone seen yet? The same board that enabled past leadership to think so "globally" is the same one in place today.<BR/><BR/>Don't lose sleep over the architecture and planning office person getting chopped. That person spearheaded the "honesty-first" counter-disinformation petition. <BR/><BR/>I don't worry too much about Ellsworth's decisions being too influenced by internal lobbying efforts right now. The architecture office was low-hanging fruit. Clearly he has his red pen in hand. Before you can expect the insane tuition hikes to stabilize, you have to get control of spending.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4265318885816623719.post-35658379811682497392008-11-14T11:05:00.000-08:002008-11-14T11:05:00.000-08:00A few facts:The firm on the east coast that was de...A few facts:<BR/><BR/>The firm on the east coast that was designing the catalog and and "new" logotype was let go a couple months ago. I don't think we'll be seeing the kinds of external design fees like that company got happening again.<BR/><BR/>Patricia Oliver was let go last week along with two other members of the architecture/planning office. There is now one architect left and an assistant. They are working on South Campus changes currently under construction, future planning for upgrades to the Ellwood building (earthquake, etc.), the potential dorms (to be financed by an outside developer), and other facilities issues.<BR/><BR/>So there are a lot of changes going on. It is an unsure and stressful time for the college. No one likes to see people lose their jobs, and the instability that these changes create (loss of long-time institutional knowledge, disruption of projects, lack of leadership, political intrigue, etc.) make everyone's job more complicated. <BR/><BR/>At least from our perspective, this is a time to look to the long-term future and health of the college, avoid slamming individual people, and guarding against hasty or mistaken moves by Ellsworth. Even if the overall moves by Ellsworth are good, those advising him may have their own agendas that don't necessarily have the best interest of the school in mind. We all need to be on the side of the school rather than fighting old battles. The ghosts of Nate, Richard and others should not be driving the decision making.Future of Art Centerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12895060905028195434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4265318885816623719.post-39374181748279779512008-11-14T08:03:00.000-08:002008-11-14T08:03:00.000-08:00Most interesting is that Art Center often outsourc...Most interesting is that Art Center often outsources design (like the corporate logo and catalog) despite having more designers on-staff than most major corporations 100 times its size, and then they INsource things such as architecture and planning. How often does Art Center go and build a new building? Don't stop at getting rid of the planners and architects. Go after their enabler (Patricia Oliver).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4265318885816623719.post-27578863386121099452008-11-12T11:57:00.000-08:002008-11-12T11:57:00.000-08:00Looks like the planning department/architecture gr...Looks like the planning department/architecture group was let go except for one person.Future of Art Centerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12895060905028195434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4265318885816623719.post-78822891479448122522008-11-11T07:26:00.000-08:002008-11-11T07:26:00.000-08:00to 11/10/08 9:10 AMOf course there are many sides ...to 11/10/08 9:10 AM<BR/><BR/>Of course there are many sides to every event, pro, con, center.<BR/><BR/>I fall strongly on one side, but I try to walk the center line. I understand and I have been open to both sides. These are hard times and we are not the only one in this situation. AIG, the car industry, housing, banking, it's spread across the board. If people live in a vacuum they will only suffer more when that bubble bursts. Outside these walls the world spins regardless of what is happening in that small sphere.<BR/><BR/>Bitter? There are a lot of bitter people out there, but there is a majority of people who voted last week for change. You could say that ACCD is a microcosm of what is occurring outside. <BR/><BR/>We had a government that was closed and opaque, an administration that worked on it's own agenda regardless of the people. Now we are in the position to take the crisis we are in and to bring good out of it. Together with hard work, we can do it. And to quote Sen. Obama "Yes We Can".Ophelia Chonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00595698342238398366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4265318885816623719.post-67198986768217390812008-11-10T09:10:00.000-08:002008-11-10T09:10:00.000-08:00Everyone keeps wondering why the board and adminis...Everyone keeps wondering why the board and administration fails to communicate on events leading up to (and after) Koshalek's departure. I think what needs to be understood is that silence is a form of communication in and of itself. <BR/><BR/> They think so poorly of us (blaming us for their troubles) that they can't possibly bring themselves to communicate at all. <BR/><BR/>Art Center is changing, and that change was forced upon the leadership. They're not happy about it. Had the students and alumni said nothing after Nate Young left, Koshalek would be sitting on a new contract right now.<BR/><BR/>Ophelia, you might feel good about the changes that are afoot, but understand that Koshalek and his kid are not the only ones feeling bitter about things.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4265318885816623719.post-9909259197605934412008-11-10T08:49:00.000-08:002008-11-10T08:49:00.000-08:00Mr. Emanuel (Rep. Illinois) and future Chief of St...Mr. Emanuel (Rep. Illinois) and future Chief of State in Sen.Obama's new presidency, on Face the Nation said:<BR/>"Rule one: Never allow a crisis to go to waste...They are opportunities to do big things."<BR/><BR/>This is what we have to do at ACCD as well. To take this opportunity to take ACCD into the future and not to tie ourselves down to the past.Ophelia Chonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00595698342238398366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4265318885816623719.post-69740981398838240112008-11-08T17:40:00.000-08:002008-11-08T17:40:00.000-08:00Why does ACCD's recruiter only go to Korea? Nothin...Why does ACCD's recruiter only go to Korea? Nothing against Korean students, but is there a reason he does't go to Europe, across the U.S., or to Africa to look for talent?<BR/><BR/>Is it because of money? <BR/>I had to take an english class in my 1st term to 'make sure everybody can communicate well'. How come I can't even communicate with half the students because they can't speak well english?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4265318885816623719.post-56402433921299828172008-10-24T14:04:00.000-07:002008-10-24T14:04:00.000-07:00If the person who is purported to have written it....If the person who is purported to have written it... really did write it, it should be noted that this person has a PhD from an Ivy League University.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4265318885816623719.post-86577273101005420472008-10-24T10:42:00.000-07:002008-10-24T10:42:00.000-07:00i took one post on my site down, we can't assume w...i took one post on my site down, we can't assume who wrote it and to accuse someone without cause is not right. <BR/><BR/>The writer was angry, and should use that anger in a more constructive way other than to write angry letters.<BR/><BR/>Never write what you can't say in person is a good rule.Ophelia Chonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00595698342238398366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4265318885816623719.post-82025786302484254612008-10-24T08:55:00.000-07:002008-10-24T08:55:00.000-07:00And now back to what we need to talk about, ACCD.And now back to what we need to talk about, ACCD.Ophelia Chonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00595698342238398366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4265318885816623719.post-5886431660062380462008-10-24T08:00:00.000-07:002008-10-24T08:00:00.000-07:00It doesn't bother me that they called me names, wh...It doesn't bother me that they called me names, what did bother me is that they could've talked to me in person and told me how they felt. If they had read what I posted on Nathan's and on FOAC, they would know that I have been supportive of ACCD, tried to keep people on track and called people out for slanderous remarks.<B> My disagreements were with the administration and where they were headed.</B> We could've talked and at least heard each other out.I made myself available to both administration, faculty, students and alumni. And in person, I am the least threatening thing you ever seen.Ophelia Chonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00595698342238398366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4265318885816623719.post-62767509306692169302008-10-24T07:40:00.000-07:002008-10-24T07:40:00.000-07:00http://www.opheliaswims.com/blog/?p=569Oh wow. I'm...http://www.opheliaswims.com/blog/?p=569<BR/><BR/>Oh wow. I'm just reading this and realizing what a bunch of feral control freaks you're dealing with.<BR/><BR/>I get the feeling people are more interested in personal prestige then they are about actually building a constructive environment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4265318885816623719.post-52710334342973374492008-10-23T22:27:00.000-07:002008-10-23T22:27:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4265318885816623719.post-48355284235075457052008-10-23T11:43:00.000-07:002008-10-23T11:43:00.000-07:00Sounds like this person had a lot of valuable info...Sounds like this person had a lot of valuable information (or at least rhetoric) to potentially contribute back in May. He (or she) seems to believe that we were all led astray by erroneous information and that innocent people have been harmed. A lot of damn good that does NOW. Where the hell was this person when the discussion was more relevant? Probably hard at work padding the rolls of the "honesty first" petition.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com